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Pamatuji, ze pri testech prvnich Octavii byli vsichni daleko vice nadseni z TDI 6. W, nez z o polovinu vykonnejsiho atmosferickeho benzinu 1. W. Pri bezne jizde totiz daleko vice jde o kroutak, o vykon od spodu, nez o nejakou vykonovou spicku v 6. A i to nejslabsi TDI 6. W ma kroutak vetsi, nez ten 1. T 1. 32k. W). Chtel jsem se na stranky SEATu podivat na nejake cenove srovnani dieselu a benzinaku a vsiml jsem se, ze uz v ceniku VUBEC NEMAJI TDI 6. W ! Skoda zrusila SDI 5. W, Seat zrusil TDI 6. W. Takze co jde vykonove srovnat? V zakladni vybave Stella jsou dva motory: 1. W versus 1. 9 TDI 8. W? Cenovy rozdil je 5. TDI ma ale vetsi vykon (a ma ho podstatne . Podle me tyto dva motory proste nejsou srovnatelne ani nahodou. Ve vybave Sport zde mame: 1. T 1. 32k. W, 1. 9 TDI 9. W a 1. 9 TDI 1. 10k. W. TDI je slabsi, ale ma o dost vetsi kroutak (2. Nm), oba maji sestikvalty (s tim se skodovka ani ve verzi RS neobtezuje). T 1. 32k. W je skvely motor na sportovni jizdu. TDI 9. 6k. W je skvely motor pro pohodlnou jizdu. Oba jsou prvni pouzitelne motory v nabidce (zadnej slabsi benzinak v Toledu neni v podstate pouzitelnej). Je o 5. 0tisic drazsi, nez oba predchozi motory. Take je na nasich silnicich spise raritou. Ono je proste obtizne vubec rict, jaky atmosfericky benzin je srovnatelny s jakym TDI. Na jizdni pohodli se zatahem odspoda je proste lepsi i slabsi TDI. Na nejake sportovni vykony ve vysokych otackach a permanentni porusovani povolene rychlosti je lepsi ten benzin. Kdybych si mel vybrat mezi TDI 6. W a 1. 8 2. 0v 9. W (ci 2. 0 8. 5k. W), tak asi vyberu stejne to TDI. A to si odmyslim to, ze i z toho 6. W TDI jde jednoduse a bezpecne udelat 1. W - vymena trysek z nej udela tu 8. W verzi (nicim jinym se nelisi) a chip z toho pak udela 1. W. Ale i bez tohoto upgradu bych na bezne jezdeni radeji to TDI 6. W, o TDI 8. 1k. W ani nemluve. Stejne tak bych radeji TDI 1. W, nez 1. 8. T 1. W (ale tato volba je mozna snad jen v Golfu - do Seatu se dava jen 1. T 1. 32k. W a do Skodovky se zase nedava TDI 1. W). Takze opravdu za stejnou cenu v Seatu je 1. T 1. 32k. W a 1. 9 TDI PD 9. W. Kdybych mel jen tuto volbu, asi bych sel toho benzinu - me by asi ten vykon za tu vyssi spotrebu stal. Ale vetsine lidi, kteri proste jen jezdi, by TDI 9. W vrchovate vyhovovalo. Ale tady uz jsme vlastne mimo, protoze 1. T neni atmosferak. Z nepreplnovanych koncernovych motoru bych si nevybral nic. Nebudu mluvit o ubohych zakladnich motorech v Octavii (i v te nove) - to bych si to auto radeji nekoupil vubec. No a jestli koupit radeji 2. FSI 1. 10k. W, nebo 2. TDI 1. 6v 1. 03k. W? No zde bych nevahal snad ani vterinu a sel bych do TDI. Jednak proto, ze FSI (na rozdil od 1. T) nebude tahnout odspodu a jednak samozrejme kvuli provoznum nakladum. Nehlede k tomu, ze to FSI temer nepujde dale ladit, kdezto u 2. TDI pujde vyladit minimalne na 1. W a slabsi 1. 9 TDI 7. W pujde vyladit minimalne na 1. W (viz http: //www. Mimochodem: je zvlastni, ze 2. TDI 1. 6v 1. 03k. W se ladi na nizsi vykon, nez 1. TDI 9. 6k. W. Me proste vyhovuje tato motorizace (samozrejme az po dalsim vyladeni) : http: //www. FSI bych nechtel uz proto, ze bud bude jezdit na drahej 9. Ale k tomu rozhodovani mezi atmosferickym benzinem a TD : samozrejme vzdy zalezi na tom, k cemu to auto chcete. Na beznejsi jizdu je pohodlnejsi TDI (i s nizsim vykonem), na sportovnejsi je vhodnejsi benzin. Porsche s dieselem bych asi nekupoval. Rodinny kombik ci MPV bych asi nekupoval s benzinem. Taky zalezi na cenovem rozdilu. Ale i rozdil 5. 00. PHM, ale i v rozdilu prodejni ceny po trech letech). A ten rozdil muze byt i mensi, v ramci nejake akce i nulovy. Bendou Vesmirni tot lide ci s p. Hrusovskym Kvantova homeopatie take chodi zeny. Zeny jsou mene racionalni, ve starsi vekove skupine i mne vzdelane, vice si berou zivotni neuspechy jako rozpad manzelstvi atd. Vsechny ty poradny ohledne zivota, partneru atd. No a kde je poptavka, tam je nabidka. Petr. Zd. S ekonomickou rozvahou to opravdu nem. Setkal jsem se Dispozi. Stejne Vam ale mohl pomoci kazdy psycholog, pripadne kamarad apod. No uvidite za par let, ja jsem co se tyce sekt a jim podobnych velmi skeptik a to z toho duvodu, ze cloveka zpracuji. Vy s tou organizaci mate stale nejake kontakty nebo splnili ukol, Vy jste zaplatil a rozesli jste se? Mam nejake zname co k necemu podobnemu spadli a uz to nejsou oni. Proste ten mozek je zpracovany tak to je. Hor! Miesat kliatby s kybernetikou dokopy sa mi zda tak trochu nezvycajne a na moj vkus neprirodzene. Kliatba je vec nedokazatelna a kybernetika je veda ktora ma pravidla a nie je mozne v nej obkecavat ako to dotycna sekta pouziva. Myslim si ze tvorcovia kybernetiky sa momentalne obracaju v hroboch ako je tato odbornost znuzivane sektou DIP. Su aj dalsie sekty podobneho razu ako napriklad Dianetika , scietologia a podobne. Doporucujem sa v tejto oblasti povzdelavat a precitat si nejaku literaturu ktora si myslim z vacsieho nadhladu posudzuje co je alebo nie je nabozenstvom alebo sektou. Je to napriklad autor Zdenek Vojtisek. Ak niekto uvadza ako argument botanicku zahradu a rozkvitanie v nej a predtym neuviedol ani jeden rozumny argument ktory by stal za zamyslenie tak by so doporucoval aby najprv nieco uviedla a az potom pouzival argumenty ktore vypovedaju o slepej dovere ako rozumnom uvazovani. Do tejto diskuzie som sa zapojil preto aby som nasiel ludi ktori maju podobne skusenosti a chcu si vzajomne pomahat a vymienat informacie, ked som si precital prispevky ktore su v tejto diskusii tak ma v mojom nazore utvrdzuju. Informacie sa o tejto sekte velmi tazko zhanaju pretoze na svojich strankach toho maju velmi malo . Ich knihy a zosity sa distribuuju len vramci ich komunity resp. Budem rad ak bude pocet prispievatelov vacsi vam pani Hornakova dakujem pretoze vas nazor velmi vystihuje vase postavenie k tejto sekte. Na internete som nasiel este jednu stranku kde sa prepierala tato problematika http: //fora. Forda. Nechci Vam brat Vase iluze : -))) ale s lidmi typu p. Hornakova ( a takovych lidi jsou tisice) je opravdu zbytecne diskutovat. Naopak je utvrdite v jejich pravde. Tato sekta zneuziva kybernetiku, rada ostatnich se zase z nejakeho duvodu pousti treba do kvantove fyziky. Proste do neceho, cemu rozumi velmi malokdo. O sektach ma skutecne nejvetsi znalosti Vami citovany p. Vojtisek, ma i poradnu. Pravdepodobne se Vam jedna o nejakeho Vam blizkeho cloveka, preju Vam hodne stesti, ale casem prijdete na to, ze s rozumovymi argumenty mezi zastanci esoteriky a vsemi jejimi odnozemi proste neuspejete.
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